Force Fed Performance
Force Fed Performance removed and reinstalled the engine in my
sand rail after it needed to be rebuilt due to detonation caused by faulty
manual lock out of the distributor. The engine was built by Nathan at Horsepower
Keith and crew at Force Fed Performance pulled & reinstalled the engine,
changed some of the fuel setup and tuned the engine (Accell DFI - Gen VII).
We had problems getting the sand rail to fit on their dyno as
the rail is over 90" wide with normal tires on it. I purchased
7" wheels and smaller tires, but it was still very tight.
To make a long story short, due to the width of the car, Force Fed Performance was not able
to get the engine to wide open throttle to fully tune it. Keith tuned it
as much as possible, and told me to keep it under 3/4 throttle for our trip to
Sand Mountain and get it fully tuned later. I picked up the car at 10am and
by 1pm were were on our way to Sand Mountain.
At Sand Mountain, everything seemed to run pretty well. I
wasn't driving it hard, but the temps stayed under about 200 degrees. I put
maybe 4 hours on the engine.
Once home, I found another dyno shop in Sacramento (Motorsport
Dynamics) that could handle the width of the car. In preparation for the dyno time, I took it
to another tuner as Force Fed Performance was too busy. The new tuner
(Autotrend) is very well versed
in Accel DFI and came highly recommended by Accel and a local racer.
Once at the Autotrend (10/5/05), he checked the Accel programming, and pretty
quickly saw that the timing synchronization was off by 12 degrees (advanced). He
pulled the air cleaner and noticed a lot of oil coming from the valve cover
breathers. Once he found all the blow by oil, he ran leak down tests on a
few different pistons. The #2 cylinder was reading nearly 50% leak down at
TDC (should be less than 5% on a new engine). He also ran a compression test
mostly to compare the #2 piston to others and found large differences. He then
used a bore scope and noticed what looked like foreign material on the cylinder
wall of #2.
I called Keith at Force Fed Performance, and his comment was
either the distributor moved or the guy running the test doesn't know what he is
doing. I assured Keith that he did in fact know what he was doing, and that I
would have the distributor checked out. The distributor checked out just fine.
It was firmly in place and did not move while the engine was running. On top of
that, if it did happen to move, it would have moved to be farther retarded, not
I have called Force Fed Performance three times on 10/6/05,
and Keith has yet to respond. I called them again several times on 10/7/05, and
finally Keith answered. He said he hadn't had a chance to check his messages and
that is why he hadn't got back to me.
I informed Keith that the engine builder was traveling up to
Autotrend on Monday (10/10/05) to review the health of the engine. Keith
said he would wait until he heard back from Nathan (Gerolamy) to decide what he
On 10/10/05, Nathan from Horsepower by Gerolamy (engine builder)
came up to Autotrend to review and make a final determination on the health of
the engine. Here is what they found:
Using bore scope, Nathan found what looked like foreign
material on upper cylinder wall of cylinder #2.
Cylinder #2 - 50% leak down at TDC. About 5% leak down
at the the bottom of the stroke.
Cylinder #8 - > 25% leak down at TDC. Less than 5% at
Cylinder #1 - > 25% leak down at TDC. Less than 5% at
Both Nathan (Gerolamy) and Dave (Autotrend) said the engine
needs to be rebuilt and that it was not safe to run the engine any longer
without chancing more drastic damage. All evidence points to detonation
damage caused by improper timing adjustment.
Force Fed Performance was the last one to touch the distributor and
Accel DFI timing synchronization.
10/10/05 - Left a message with Keith at Force Fed
Performance. I gave a quick overview, and told him that it was the professional
opinion of Nathan (Gerolamy) and Dave (Autotrend) that the engine damage was
consistent with detonation caused by overly advanced timing.
10/11/05 - The engine was pulled and delivered to Gerolamy. On
10/12/05, Gerolamy tore the engine apart. Pistons look good. Cylinders were
slightly out of round (.0015) and this was causing the excessive leak down.
Apparently, this is a typical problem with Dart aluminum blocks that experience
10/12/05 - Left a message for Keith at Force Fed
Performance. I told him that I need to hear back from him, or I would
pursue legal action.
10/13/05 - After several more messages, I was finally able to
get Keith on the phone. He agreed to refund the money I paid him for
the removal and installation last time - about $1,800.
1/12/06 - Many more messages left at Force Fed Performance over
several months with no reply. I did not receive any refund from Force Fed Performance.
The engine was rebuilt, and has been reinstalled in the car.
1/12/06 - Complaint filed with the Bureau of Automotive Repair
against Force Fed Performance.
Actions taken against Force Fed Performance:
Filed a complaint with Accel (Mr. Gasket is parent company).
Filed a complaint with California Bureau
of Automotive Repair.
Lawsuit against Force Fed Performance is forthcoming:
a. Engine diagnosis at Autotrend.
b. Labor to pull and reinstall engine.
c. Rebuild the engine.
Total Damages - $11,513.59
Other Accel DFI configuration problems that were discovered:
Fuel rail pressure was set to 42 psi but actual was 48 psi.
RPM range topped out at 6200 rpm, but engine builder states
this value should be more like 6800 rpm since peak horsepower is probably achieved
between 6000 - 6500 rpm.
Force Fed Performance In the News
Two YC homes said to house major cultivation
January 09, 2008 - 11:44 PM
Police on Wednesday uncovered a large-scale
indoor marijuana-growing operation in the Tierra
Buena section of Yuba City, believed to be the first
of its kind found in the area.
Stohlman was arrested without incident. Her
boyfriend, James Keith Fletcher, was arrested at
his Sacramento auto repair business, Force Fed
Performance. Kyle Leonard of Citrus Heights,
believed to be the electrician who set up the
operation, was arrested along with Stohlman, said
All three are facing cultivation charges and,
because of the amount of marijuana involved, could
end up being prosecuted by the U.S. Attorney's
Office in Sacramento, he said.
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